Great news! Would it be possible for notes to remember where you were? I have some longer notes that I use as a hyperlinked index. It's nice to follow a link and then come back to where you were.
Looking forward to it! (Looking even more forward to the release itself of course).
I cannot tell you have happy I am about this project! I've been using Bear since I absolutely needed image support, but while the interface is good for what it is… it doesn't have the wonderful omnibar for the NV family of apps. I miss it so much! Everything just felt so fast and smooth with it!
I think you underestimate the level of effort required to support operating systems 4 versions behind the current. That said, I think we do currently run on 10.11, but no guarantees.
Love that you are doing this. I need a place to put all my notes and I dont like Ulysses' look and feel. Also need the iOS version... but I think there are other options there provided the notes are available.
Really looking forward to this. Love the simplicity and ubiquity of drive-backed text files, synced on macOS and iOS. I used to have a few notes apps back in the day syncing via dropbox, but Dropbox and the apps just bloated over time and it all decayed.
one more for nvUltra as name. I can't imagine working without nvALT. The most useful features are instant saving so that it is immediately available on all devices; being able to read notes on the iPhone (for example on the run in an airport) with Simplenote; tagging notes; never having to touch a mouse; plus the very simple straight-forward interface. Would much prefer to pay for updates and happy to do so than subscription. Echo the comment about pre-pay.
Can you compile it for Linux?
It would be great to have it on Ubuntu with gnome, but especially on i3/sway based tiled window managers.
It feels so much like nvALT and these fast tiled window managers belong together.
I'm sincerely hopeful that we have it ready for release in the next month, but if it takes any longer than that I'll be seriously considering pre-sales. I'm going broke in the meantime :).
guys. i am hoping for a little help.
i have been relying on notational velocity as my business note taking app on my mac pro desktop and my mac air laptop. additionally i have been using it to sync to my iphone.
because i jump around quite a bit i am afraid i am finding ALL my devices are out of sync.
and i am not sure what is going on.
the laptop would normally be the most "up to date" in the sense that i do the most editing on it but can anyone please explain to me what is going on?
the fact that SIMPLENOTE broke the sync means that all my devices (iphone, laptop and desktop) have been unsynced since the sync was broken?!
meaning i now have notes on one device that may not be on another (for all three devices) and also notes that have been EDITED on one that was not updated on another?
and how to get out of this mess?
there appears to be a database in my "notational velocity" FOLDER on both the mac pro and the mac air where the notes for that individual device are now stored? totally independent of any other device at this point?
i ask because i am thinking to print out all the notes from the MAC PRO, and then edit the data on the MAC AIR so that i now have one proofed set of notes.
anything i need to do with the SYNC SETTINGS ? right now i have both computers set to READ NOTES FROM FOLDER "Notational Data" AND i have it set to "SYNCHRONIZE WITH SIMPLENOTE" via my email login and password for Simplenote.
THANK YOU for reading and thanks to anyone willing to dumb this down a bit as i am obviously not a programmer.
is there a way to TRACK CHANGES and let nVALT or nvUltra reconcile them automatically?!
THANKS
You just need to enable "save as individual text files", copy all the folders to one machine, and use any folder sync app (Smart Folder Sync, Forklift, etc) to reconcile the differences. We recommend Dropbox or similar for sync in the future.
nvWiki, wikiNote, altWiki? Anyway, I'm a mobile developer if you need any help with the project. Can't wait for the product, keep up the great work, guys!
I feel like I'm a little late to the dance but wanted to say I'm sooooo excited about "son of NVAlt". NVAlt and MultiMarkdown Composer have been at the core of my workflow since 2012. Looking forward to the next evolution of NVAlt. The two of you really are a dream team for this kind of forward-looking tool. Great stuff!
Requests (please!)
- A wysiwyg option, similar to IA Writer
- Tags, with hierarchy (as in Bear notes). This is more important to me (and way more useful) than multiple folders
- Some quick and easy method of adding images to notes.
PS, one formatting option missing from Markdown (imho), especially relating to note taking , is highlighting.
Those are very good news! But regarding tags, why use the OS ones? Why not go the Bear way and automatically index inline hashtags? I find those a lot easier and future-proof.
I'm so excited for this! I've got around the lack of subdirectory support by creating a Keyboard Maestro shortcut that helps me quickly change the directory nvALT is looking in so that I can quickly switch contexts (e.g., from a personal to a work context / sub-folder).
+1 for Simplenote / something cross-platform, otherwise I will be forced to stick to simplenote. At the very least something I can use to read nvUltra notes on Android/iOS.
A least once a quarter I have a small emotional breakdown over the fact that apple has abandoned HyperCard. It would be the silver bullet for so many things I do. God I loved that software.
I'd prefer Envy. It's clearly a homage to a related but separate development. nvUltra carries the implication of being the newest version of nvALT. Because it breaks simplenote support, this might set the wrong impression for people familiar with previous work., For newcomers it's a meaningless term.
Wiki-style links and note creation
The note-creation mechanisms + wiki-style links of nvALT made me extremely eager to to throw money at any nv-related product created by you. Issues with starting the program on recent versions of macos forced me to start using The Archive. The only real gripe I have with it is that it doesn't provide suggestions like nvALT does when creating a new link.
Excellent news for plain text lovers. I'm using both, nvALT and MultiMarkdown Composer almost every day and Envy or nvUltra ("DeepNote" would also sound nice to my ears) will surely be an instant buy. I thank you in advance for not putting plain text in some database. As modern als Bear or Ulysses may look, their tendency to hide my text files away from other apps is disturbing and the contrary of the idea of plain text.
In case you are lacking more feature requests (or at least feedback on preferred usage cases): A robust #hashtag support would be nice - automatic detection and automatic file list filtering. Be sure to take The Archive for a test ride (another nice Notational Velocity reimagination). iA Writer also has basic hashtag recognition and navigation.
I would really like if it could integrates YAML codes for tags, etc.
I would like a lot plain text md but with a kind of WYSIWYG live rendering like in Typora.
Please keep the hypertext facility with a markdown notation.
This is great to hear, BUT lack of Android port or Simplenote integration makes it an absolute dealbreaker for many who work on across MacOS/iOS/Android devices. What's your strategy here?
Yes, the combination of Simplenote on the iPhone (large clear font!) and nvALT on the Mac is a winning combination. If nvUltra breaks this then it will be just another notepad - see my remark elsewhere about FS Notes
PLEASE add tabs to see many notes at once and add "back/forward" to jump between previous and next notes in your history. When you search something and want to go back instantly - now you can't.
Those are dealbreakers for nvAlt/Notational Velocity.
Yes, forward and back options would be really useful. Particularly in conjunction with taking you to the same point in the document that you were editing at.
Can I just ask - I'm a total nvALT addict - that if nvULTRA is abandoning Simplenote sync and going for iCloud and separate folders, how your end product will differ from Oleksandr Glushchenko's FS Notes, which clains to be 'nvALT on steroids'!
Thanks for mentioning FSNotes. Looks really promising and might be just the thing for my wife because of it's built in task category. She gave up on NValt due to repeated crashes.
Brett, I'm really looking forward to the beta and my name is near the top of the list, but I'm going to dive into FSNotes. Looks like a polished project.
this is obviously not the place for feature requests ... you know what's coming right? but please please please give us the ability to shift select different notes and see them all joined as if it was one note in the same window... like scrivener. that's the only reason i use scrivener...!
Second—I think nvUltra is a super cool name!—homage to MK Ultra, the CIA mind control program. It's appropriate since nvALT and nvUltra are practically super powers.
I think the codename should be in the running for final contestant, but I also like the ideas about NV → Envy.
By the way, your markdown comment preview does something funny: While typing, the leading gets tighter, but then loosens up a second or so after the last keystroke.
Yes, just like using nvALT with plain text files instead of database mode. One file per note, nothing in there you didn't write. And you can add to the folder from anywhere and the app will pick up new files and index them. Plus, you can use any/multiple folders, and store assets in the same folder or subfolders without causing issues.
We are not planning on dealing with Simplenote. We're keeping it limited to plain text files in a folder, the most universal and portable way to deal with notes. Sync via any file-based syncing service will be entirely possible, but not via a database-style API like SImplenote.
iCloud integration would solve that very well for me using iPad, iPhone, and Mac. I did use SimpleNote integration but its not anything special that any file syncing wouldn't be... and versioning can be handled by a good backup solution on the user end for their Mac.
+1 for Simperium or iCloud integration. Right now I use nvAlt on my workstation and laptop with the native Simplenote app on iOS all tied together with Simperium. Really works well. I've not had such good luck with text file based sync. Fully glad to pay what it takes. This chain of tools is central to my workflow.
Throwing in another vote for including Simplenote integration. Use it with nvalt all the time for the reasons listed (iOS app, web access, and history feature).
Thanks for picking this back up! I rely heavily on nvalt.
iOS is likely coming. Inversely, Android is almost definitely not. Unless we make so much money on this that we can afford an Android dev, neither of us are likely to find motivation to get into it :).
Please make sure you start some kind of a crowdfunding for it, because I would actually pay for the Android version, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. :)
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Sooo. Is this still on its way? I was a longtime user of nvAlt, and have just started using Drafts since I was unclear where things were going.
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Very close to a commercial release, yes.
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Great!
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I guess there's no chance this will be cross-platform? I'd absolutely love a linux version of this!
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hi! any news on nvultra?
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see comment above.
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Any news?
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any news? Could you share a public alpha/beta?
Many thanks for your work
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It's unlikely we'll have a public beta before release, but we're working on setting an ETA right now.
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is it coming? should I keep use nvALT?
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Great news! Would it be possible for notes to remember where you were? I have some longer notes that I use as a hyperlinked index. It's nice to follow a link and then come back to where you were.
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Any update on a release? Anxiously awaiting it's arrival, so please don't pull a guns n roses on us with this. I love your work btw.
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I appreciate the Chinese Democracy reference :). But seriously, things are going well and we should have an ETA nailed down this month.
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Looking forward to it! (Looking even more forward to the release itself of course).
I cannot tell you have happy I am about this project! I've been using Bear since I absolutely needed image support, but while the interface is good for what it is… it doesn't have the wonderful omnibar for the NV family of apps. I miss it so much! Everything just felt so fast and smooth with it!
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All references aside, I feel like I've heard that one before. Don't do me like Dre did either! Now better part of way thru month so what's the word?
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We have an internal ETA but there’s still room for slippage, so not a public ETA. This is still going to require some patience on your part.
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nvUltra sounds fine. Please make it also available for older macOS Versions! For me would be 10.11 great. Thx!
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I think you underestimate the level of effort required to support operating systems 4 versions behind the current. That said, I think we do currently run on 10.11, but no guarantees.
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ttNote - descriptive, but reminiscent of ttscoff.
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Hah, I like it, but it totally leaves Fletcher out of the name :).
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... as in "totally text Note"
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"NoVel"
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Well, I can only say thanks. If the new one is just a tad better than this I will be happy. A couple of names: Notesmith and Typemonger
Cheers
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For a name, what about: nirvana
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Love that you are doing this. I need a place to put all my notes and I dont like Ulysses' look and feel. Also need the iOS version... but I think there are other options there provided the notes are available.
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Really looking forward to this. Love the simplicity and ubiquity of drive-backed text files, synced on macOS and iOS. I used to have a few notes apps back in the day syncing via dropbox, but Dropbox and the apps just bloated over time and it all decayed.
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How will you handle encryption, will each file be encrypted if its working in folder structures?
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Some suggestions
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alacrity is too similar to https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty, I think
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one more for nvUltra as name. I can't imagine working without nvALT. The most useful features are instant saving so that it is immediately available on all devices; being able to read notes on the iPhone (for example on the run in an airport) with Simplenote; tagging notes; never having to touch a mouse; plus the very simple straight-forward interface. Would much prefer to pay for updates and happy to do so than subscription. Echo the comment about pre-pay.
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Can you compile it for Linux? It would be great to have it on Ubuntu with gnome, but especially on i3/sway based tiled window managers. It feels so much like nvALT and these fast tiled window managers belong together.
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Is there any way to pre-pay for this? I've gotten a ton of value out of nvAlt over the years and I'd love you return some of that value.
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I'm sincerely hopeful that we have it ready for release in the next month, but if it takes any longer than that I'll be seriously considering pre-sales. I'm going broke in the meantime :).
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+1 for pre-sales - got some cash in my pocket with your name on it :)
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Any updates here? More than willing to put down some $ for this!
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guys. i am hoping for a little help. i have been relying on notational velocity as my business note taking app on my mac pro desktop and my mac air laptop. additionally i have been using it to sync to my iphone. because i jump around quite a bit i am afraid i am finding ALL my devices are out of sync. and i am not sure what is going on. the laptop would normally be the most "up to date" in the sense that i do the most editing on it but can anyone please explain to me what is going on? the fact that SIMPLENOTE broke the sync means that all my devices (iphone, laptop and desktop) have been unsynced since the sync was broken?! meaning i now have notes on one device that may not be on another (for all three devices) and also notes that have been EDITED on one that was not updated on another? and how to get out of this mess? there appears to be a database in my "notational velocity" FOLDER on both the mac pro and the mac air where the notes for that individual device are now stored? totally independent of any other device at this point? i ask because i am thinking to print out all the notes from the MAC PRO, and then edit the data on the MAC AIR so that i now have one proofed set of notes. anything i need to do with the SYNC SETTINGS ? right now i have both computers set to READ NOTES FROM FOLDER "Notational Data" AND i have it set to "SYNCHRONIZE WITH SIMPLENOTE" via my email login and password for Simplenote. THANK YOU for reading and thanks to anyone willing to dumb this down a bit as i am obviously not a programmer. is there a way to TRACK CHANGES and let nVALT or nvUltra reconcile them automatically?! THANKS
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You just need to enable "save as individual text files", copy all the folders to one machine, and use any folder sync app (Smart Folder Sync, Forklift, etc) to reconcile the differences. We recommend Dropbox or similar for sync in the future.
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Someone has to do it. - Notey McNoteface
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Name Suggestion: NVOS - NV On Steroids
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Will password protection of notes be an option (like it is for nvAlt)? Pretty please? Thanks!
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nvAltra both a nod to nvALT and a near homophone of nvUltra
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Oh my goodness, this is so exciting! Can't wait for the updates. Thanks!
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Will nvUltra be open sourced?
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No, it's a fully commercial app.
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Just what I was looking for today! I did a search and found this great news! Can't wait!
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Small feature request: Clickable #hashtags.
Together with [[double-bracket links]], this would give it feature parity with my other favorite plain-text app of choice.
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Braincells
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nvULTRA is a badass name❤️. Here's one vote for sticking with it. Anyone second the motion?
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nvWiki, wikiNote, altWiki? Anyway, I'm a mobile developer if you need any help with the project. Can't wait for the product, keep up the great work, guys!
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Like many, I do like the sound of nvUltra.
What about NoteCommand or CommandNote, perhaps ⌘Note or Note⌘
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Any chance that criticmarkup.com highlighting will be included?
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I feel like I'm a little late to the dance but wanted to say I'm sooooo excited about "son of NVAlt". NVAlt and MultiMarkdown Composer have been at the core of my workflow since 2012. Looking forward to the next evolution of NVAlt. The two of you really are a dream team for this kind of forward-looking tool. Great stuff!
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Requests (please!) - A wysiwyg option, similar to IA Writer - Tags, with hierarchy (as in Bear notes). This is more important to me (and way more useful) than multiple folders - Some quick and easy method of adding images to notes.
PS, one formatting option missing from Markdown (imho), especially relating to note taking , is highlighting.
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Those are very good news! But regarding tags, why use the OS ones? Why not go the Bear way and automatically index inline hashtags? I find those a lot easier and future-proof.
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I'm so excited for this! I've got around the lack of subdirectory support by creating a Keyboard Maestro shortcut that helps me quickly change the directory nvALT is looking in so that I can quickly switch contexts (e.g., from a personal to a work context / sub-folder).
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+1 for Simplenote / something cross-platform, otherwise I will be forced to stick to simplenote. At the very least something I can use to read nvUltra notes on Android/iOS.
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How can I get all my notes to a thumb drive so I can get them off my work computer to my home computer? where do the files reside? Thanks!
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From where? nvALT?
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You've got the name. nvUltra is perfect. Very excited for the folder options.
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This is really great to hear. nvAlt is an indispensable part of my workflow. I call it "the brain". Honestly nvUltra works!
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Oh my goodness! I'm so excited!!!
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Forgive lack of English. nvAlt not work well on Mojave Beta. Find and replace function cause crash in Mojave 10.14.5 Beta 4.
Look forward to new nvAlt
Like name of nvRedux
Thank for everything
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A least once a quarter I have a small emotional breakdown over the fact that apple has abandoned HyperCard. It would be the silver bullet for so many things I do. God I loved that software.
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I'd prefer Envy. It's clearly a homage to a related but separate development. nvUltra carries the implication of being the newest version of nvALT. Because it breaks simplenote support, this might set the wrong impression for people familiar with previous work., For newcomers it's a meaningless term.
Wiki-style links and note creation
The note-creation mechanisms + wiki-style links of nvALT made me extremely eager to to throw money at any nv-related product created by you. Issues with starting the program on recent versions of macos forced me to start using The Archive. The only real gripe I have with it is that it doesn't provide suggestions like nvALT does when creating a new link.
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Excellent news for plain text lovers. I'm using both, nvALT and MultiMarkdown Composer almost every day and Envy or nvUltra ("DeepNote" would also sound nice to my ears) will surely be an instant buy. I thank you in advance for not putting plain text in some database. As modern als Bear or Ulysses may look, their tendency to hide my text files away from other apps is disturbing and the contrary of the idea of plain text.
In case you are lacking more feature requests (or at least feedback on preferred usage cases): A robust #hashtag support would be nice - automatic detection and automatic file list filtering. Be sure to take The Archive for a test ride (another nice Notational Velocity reimagination). iA Writer also has basic hashtag recognition and navigation.
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Such a good news !
I would really like if it could integrates YAML codes for tags, etc. I would like a lot plain text md but with a kind of WYSIWYG live rendering like in Typora. Please keep the hypertext facility with a markdown notation.
best regards, I can’t wait to see the new soft
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This is great to hear, BUT lack of Android port or Simplenote integration makes it an absolute dealbreaker for many who work on across MacOS/iOS/Android devices. What's your strategy here?
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It's plain text, and works with any file syncing solution you have access to. There are Dropbox/Google Drive editors on all of these platforms.
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Yes, the combination of Simplenote on the iPhone (large clear font!) and nvALT on the Mac is a winning combination. If nvUltra breaks this then it will be just another notepad - see my remark elsewhere about FS Notes
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PLEASE add tabs to see many notes at once and add "back/forward" to jump between previous and next notes in your history. When you search something and want to go back instantly - now you can't.
Those are dealbreakers for nvAlt/Notational Velocity.
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Yes, forward and back options would be really useful. Particularly in conjunction with taking you to the same point in the document that you were editing at.
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Can I just ask - I'm a total nvALT addict - that if nvULTRA is abandoning Simplenote sync and going for iCloud and separate folders, how your end product will differ from Oleksandr Glushchenko's FS Notes, which clains to be 'nvALT on steroids'!
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Thanks for mentioning FSNotes. Looks really promising and might be just the thing for my wife because of it's built in task category. She gave up on NValt due to repeated crashes.
Brett, I'm really looking forward to the beta and my name is near the top of the list, but I'm going to dive into FSNotes. Looks like a polished project.
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well that is seriously good news!
this is obviously not the place for feature requests ... you know what's coming right? but please please please give us the ability to shift select different notes and see them all joined as if it was one note in the same window... like scrivener. that's the only reason i use scrivener...!
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I'm a fan of nvALT and this is a great news. Is this going to be cross-platform?
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Looking forward to it!
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Very glad to hear this. nvALT is an essential part of my work habits, and I was sad to see it in decline. Long live NVPlusUltra!
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Bring it back home to ‘notational velocity’. Or nvALT+
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I'm loving the pure simplicity and lineage embedded in nvALT+.
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I like the nvUltra name. I am so effin' stoked about this...and in collaboration with Fletcher Penny? Unreal!
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nvUltra is great - why worry about another name! That's what I'm going to call it anyway - whatever you decide!!!
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First—awesome!! Can't wait to see it.
Second—I think nvUltra is a super cool name!—homage to MK Ultra, the CIA mind control program. It's appropriate since nvALT and nvUltra are practically super powers.
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Just call it nvAlt. The legacy of nvAlt is unmatched in the MacOS community.
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This.
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Being a huge fan of the work of both you and Fletcher, this is fantastic news. The very best wishes to your both with this.
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notacity as twist on the notational velocity.
CTRLnv as twist on the old name, but showing better control?
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EnvyUltra isn't bad. I also like keeping it simple and calling it nvULT.
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Envy or nvUlt works for me!
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Very excited about this! I personally like Envy as previously suggested.
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I think the codename should be in the running for final contestant, but I also like the ideas about NV → Envy.
By the way, your markdown comment preview does something funny: While typing, the leading gets tighter, but then loosens up a second or so after the last keystroke.
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How about “Envy” or “Note Envy” to pay homage to the app’s “NV” origins?
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Envy, that was my suggestion, too.
Alternatives: EnvyNotes, EnvyText, TextEnvy.
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Does it write single markdown files in a folder?
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Yes, just like using nvALT with plain text files instead of database mode. One file per note, nothing in there you didn't write. And you can add to the folder from anywhere and the app will pick up new files and index them. Plus, you can use any/multiple folders, and store assets in the same folder or subfolders without causing issues.
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This is a very important question! Assets stored in an appropriate sub directory?
From the description, it sounds like this would be the case (at least re: single markdown files vs some, IMNSHO, abusive db/packaging solution...)
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I really like this idea. We get to call it by the shorthand NV and it has a meaningful named spelled out.
NoteVault, the spiritual descendent of Notational Velocity.
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NVinally.
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NVforever. As is, your notes last forever as text.
Also, as in the update took forever, and yet we patiently waited with money in hand to by it. Only early adopters would get that.
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just call it Note (as in Keynote or, indeed, in take note). Looking forward to it, no matter what you name it, though;)
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TASN - The Art & Science of Notes
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Epifany - misspelled intentionally
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nv++
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notehouse, notebin, notecache, notebox, noteroom (lol, those last two sound like dropbox and write room). Maybe the first one. good luck
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oh yeah, "all in" is another name, and "Penny Notes"
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Any chance of Simplenote compatibility? (in my case, mostly for IPhone syncing, but also the History feature has saved me a few times.)
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We are not planning on dealing with Simplenote. We're keeping it limited to plain text files in a folder, the most universal and portable way to deal with notes. Sync via any file-based syncing service will be entirely possible, but not via a database-style API like SImplenote.
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+1 for Simplenote. There no better way to look at nvalt notes in iOS.
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Right on. Plain text simplicity paired with the open up and start typing swiftness is why I still use nvALT today.
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iCloud integration would solve that very well for me using iPad, iPhone, and Mac. I did use SimpleNote integration but its not anything special that any file syncing wouldn't be... and versioning can be handled by a good backup solution on the user end for their Mac.
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Opting in for the Simplenote integration, I'm using it with nvAlt to sync up with iOS device and preserve history.
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+1 for Simperium or iCloud integration. Right now I use nvAlt on my workstation and laptop with the native Simplenote app on iOS all tied together with Simperium. Really works well. I've not had such good luck with text file based sync. Fully glad to pay what it takes. This chain of tools is central to my workflow.
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I am voting for Simplenote integration too. Will probably stick to nvALT otherwise. But nvALT has started crashing a little too often now.
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Throwing in another vote for including Simplenote integration. Use it with nvalt all the time for the reasons listed (iOS app, web access, and history feature).
Thanks for picking this back up! I rely heavily on nvalt.
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Needs ios/andriod options. nvalt is SO good, but I need to be able to access/edit stuff on my phone, and other apps don't match up.
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iOS is likely coming. Inversely, Android is almost definitely not. Unless we make so much money on this that we can afford an Android dev, neither of us are likely to find motivation to get into it :).
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Please make sure you start some kind of a crowdfunding for it, because I would actually pay for the Android version, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. :)
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that’s it - perfect name for a quick, simple, uber flexible, honest (being all text based) notes app
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